Giuliani says Trump ‘never spoke’ with Michael Cohen about his testimony, a day after asking ‘so what?’ Ads
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on Thursday said Americans would “revolt” if Donald Trump is impeached.


  • Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s top , said Monday that Trump did not talk to Michael Cohen before the former lawyer’s testimony to .
  • Speaking to , Giuliani said Trump “never” spoke with Cohen, a day after he said he “didn’t know” if Trump had spoken to him about the testimony.
  • Cohen has admitted to lying to Congress in his 2017 testimony about discussions for developing a Trump Tower deal in .
  • Trump and Cohen’s potential contact is under renewed scrutiny after a bombshell BuzzFeed News report said Trump had directed his former “fixer” to lie in testimony.

Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s top attorney, said Monday that Trump did not talk to his former lawyer, Michael Cohen about Cohen’s testimony to Congress.

Speaking to theNew York Daily News,Giuliani said Trump “never” spoke with Cohen, and he had confirmed that point with ex-lead John Dowd, among other former members of the president’s legal team.

“The president never spoke with Cohen about the congressional testimony,” Giuliani told the Daily News in a report published a day after he said he “didn’t know” about the matter.

Giuliani added that the president’s legal team had contact with conversed with Cohen’s lawyers, and possibly Cohen himself, head of his September 2017 testimony to the House and Senate intelligence committees.

The day before, Giuliani told CNN host Jake Tapper that he wasn’t sure about the matter, and cast doubt on the significance of potential contact, saying “so what?”

“I don’t know if it happened or didn’t happen,” Giuliani said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “So what if he talked to him about it?”

Trump’s contact with Cohen re-entered the spotlight after a bombshell BuzzFeed News report published Friday said Trump had directed Cohen to lie in his testimony, which Democratic lawmakers pointed to as ground for impeachment, if the report’s claims were true.

Giuliani, along with Vice President Mike Pence,waved off the reportover the weekend, saying he was “100 percent” sure Trump hadn’t directed Cohen to lie.

Cohen hasadmitted lying to Congressabout multiple aspects of the Moscow Trump Tower deal, including the timeline of discussions inside the Trump Organization and the extent of his relationships and communication with officials, and the involvement of multiple Trump family members in pushing the deal through.

Cohen’s plea indicated that Trump was not being truthful when he denied any financial interests in during his 2016 campaign,according to reporting from Business Insider’s Sonam Sheth. Additional concerns were raised when it was reported the Trump Organization wanted to give Russian President Vladimir Putin thepenthouse in the building.


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